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A community for the dragon language of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Thuum.org

A community for the dragon language of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Site Update February 6, 2016  1  2 > >>  

Site Update

February 6, 2016

Welcome to the new Thuum.org! The latest update is the largest in site's history, with hundreds of pages of new dictionary content, a new Translator tool, and much more. This update represents months of work that we're excited to finally bring to you. There's a lot to take in, so check out all the new features and changes below.

Dictionary

Our dragon language dictionary has been overhauled with brand new entries featuring the 640+ words of the official language. These entries are more detailed than ever, including pronunciations, connotations, and usage examples compiled from the game and the official game guide. Dive into one of the new dictionary entries or see the updated About page for a complete breakdown of the new entry format.

If you're a translator who has helped provide international translations for the previous dictionary, stay tuned. The new dictionary, Search, and Translator tools have been specifically built to support international languages. We'll be testing the waters with the English dictionary first, so once the dust has settled we'll have an update to let you know when the international versions are ready.

Translator

With the dictionary update, the Translator has been completely retooled to accommodate the new entries. Each word comes with a list of possible translations, including detailed notes to help you decide which translation fits best. When any kind of suffix or special grammar is involved, you'll also receive links to relevant parts of the lessons so you can learn alongside the Translator or double-check what you know. On top of that, the new Translator is also capable of translating complex compound words and whole phrases in either dragon or English.

The English-Dragon side of the Translator is powered by the entries listed in the English-Dragon portion of the dictionary. There will be a number of missing translations at first, but with your help in providing new translations for phrases and synonyms, the Translator will become more complete over time.

Search

The Search tool has also been updated and streamlined. New search options allow you to search for words that begin or end with certain letters, perfect for looking up words that rhyme or are otherwise similar.

Learn

The Learn pages have been extensively revised to support the new dictionary. If you haven't read the lessons yet, we encourage you to take a look. If you already have, there are new sections and exercises to try out. New features include:

Legacy Dictionary

The old dictionary, Translator, and Search pages can now be found under the Legacy Dictionary section. From this point forward, the legacy dictionary will no longer be maintained or supported. As such, previous site features such as word submission and international translation submission are no longer available. The legacy dictionary will not be part of any future site content, including lessons, games, or contests. We strongly encourage everyone to follow the new dictionary, but if you wish to continue using the legacy dictionary, it is still available to you.

Other Updates & Fixes

Below are some additional changes or fixes part of this update:

  • Updated header, background, and news article layout.
  • Cleaned up navigation and moved “Library” under the “Learn” section.
  • Library items now have a “Legacy” label if they make use of the legacy dictionary.
  • Usernames can now be changed from the Edit Profile page. You are able to change your username once in a 30 day period.
  • A new Privacy Policy has been added to the signup page and footer. The site hasn't changed how it handles user information, but this is mainly for technical reasons and to stay transparent with those of you who are site members.
  • Fixed an issue where mobile forum posts would bleed outside the forum layout.
  • Fixed mobile forum post formatting and line break problems.
  • Fixed dragon runes in the forums to work the same as in Conversations. Posts with runes will now be easier to write and edit.

If you experience any caching issues as a result of this update, try clearing your browser cache. Otherwise let us know, and we'll look into it further.

We hope you enjoy all the updates and have fun exploring the new dictionary. As always, you can share your thoughts, questions, and feedback in the Site Discussion forum. Lok, Thu'um!



PhoenixAngel
February 6, 2016

I have a slight problem, and I'm not quite sure how to fix it or if it's something you're working on, but I liked the old (now Legacy) Translator better, so I clicked on it and got this:

 

Error 404 - Not Found

The document you are looking for may have been removed or re-named. Please contact the web site owner for further assistance.

 

Any ideas? Please help!

by PhoenixAngel
February 6, 2016

I have a slight problem, and I'm not quite sure how to fix it or if it's something you're working on, but I liked the old (now Legacy) Translator better, so I clicked on it and got this:

 

Error 404 - Not Found

The document you are looking for may have been removed or re-named. Please contact the web site owner for further assistance.

 

Any ideas? Please help!


paarthurnax
Administrator
February 6, 2016
PhoenixAngel

I have a slight problem, and I'm not quite sure how to fix it or if it's something you're working on, but I liked the old (now Legacy) Translator better, so I clicked on it and got this:

 

Error 404 - Not Found

The document you are looking for may have been removed or re-named. Please contact the web site owner for further assistance.

 

Any ideas? Please help!

Sorry about that, I forgot to upload the file. You should see it now.

by paarthurnax
February 6, 2016
PhoenixAngel

I have a slight problem, and I'm not quite sure how to fix it or if it's something you're working on, but I liked the old (now Legacy) Translator better, so I clicked on it and got this:

 

Error 404 - Not Found

The document you are looking for may have been removed or re-named. Please contact the web site owner for further assistance.

 

Any ideas? Please help!

Sorry about that, I forgot to upload the file. You should see it now.


Doraak
February 6, 2016

I look forward to see the changes on the site. :)

by Doraak
February 6, 2016

I look forward to see the changes on the site. :)


Dezalkul
February 7, 2016

I don't see the option to change my username in the Edit Profile page.

by Dezalkul
February 7, 2016

I don't see the option to change my username in the Edit Profile page.


Foduiiz
February 7, 2016

Wow! New CSS and graphics, fresh dictionary, awesome translator, and IPA notation!? It's like a whole new Thu'um.

A few thoughts:

  • In the header, move Site Map under About
  • Wider container feels more spacious: .container, .content, .footer-new {max-width: 960px;}
  • Make the user li the same color as the rest: ul.topnav li.nav-right {background-color: #111;}
  • I think .forumtable looks better without borders, but that might not be a popular opinion.

Great job, Mr Admin.

by Foduiiz
February 7, 2016

Wow! New CSS and graphics, fresh dictionary, awesome translator, and IPA notation!? It's like a whole new Thu'um.

A few thoughts:

  • In the header, move Site Map under About
  • Wider container feels more spacious: .container, .content, .footer-new {max-width: 960px;}
  • Make the user li the same color as the rest: ul.topnav li.nav-right {background-color: #111;}
  • I think .forumtable looks better without borders, but that might not be a popular opinion.

Great job, Mr Admin.


KittyKron
February 7, 2016

I don't see any name change option, either.

by KittyKron
February 7, 2016

I don't see any name change option, either.


Malboviing
February 7, 2016

Everything is completely different. Wow. It's a good different as well. 

by Malboviing
February 7, 2016

Everything is completely different. Wow. It's a good different as well. 


paarthurnax
Administrator
February 7, 2016
KittyKron

I don't see any name change option, either.

Sorry about that, you should see it now.

by paarthurnax
February 7, 2016
KittyKron

I don't see any name change option, either.

Sorry about that, you should see it now.


Malboviing
February 7, 2016

We can change our name as well now? Nice!

by Malboviing
February 7, 2016

We can change our name as well now? Nice!


Malboviing
February 8, 2016

Truth be told though, I liked how the old translator worked, simple and easy. Now it is hard to use.

by Malboviing
February 8, 2016

Truth be told though, I liked how the old translator worked, simple and easy. Now it is hard to use.


paarthurnax
Administrator
February 8, 2016
Fusyolfaas

Truth be told though, I liked how the old translator worked, simple and easy. Now it is hard to use.

It takes some learning. I didn't want to repeat the mistakes of the previous Translator, so it is more of an advanced search tool. My goal with it is to encourage people to learn and look at other parts of the site. One of my concerns was that it would be too complex for beginners, so if there are ways you think it could be improved or simplified, let me know.

by paarthurnax
February 8, 2016
Fusyolfaas

Truth be told though, I liked how the old translator worked, simple and easy. Now it is hard to use.

It takes some learning. I didn't want to repeat the mistakes of the previous Translator, so it is more of an advanced search tool. My goal with it is to encourage people to learn and look at other parts of the site. One of my concerns was that it would be too complex for beginners, so if there are ways you think it could be improved or simplified, let me know.


Malboviing
February 8, 2016

I'd suggest having it like the old dictionary, as in you type the word in and it gives you the translation, but you can still tap the word and get its definition and uses. Simple, yet complex.

by Malboviing
February 8, 2016

I'd suggest having it like the old dictionary, as in you type the word in and it gives you the translation, but you can still tap the word and get its definition and uses. Simple, yet complex.


Jordan L
February 8, 2016

The reworked website looks nice. Good job paarth!

by Jordan L
February 8, 2016

The reworked website looks nice. Good job paarth!


paarthurnax
Administrator
February 8, 2016
Fusyolfaas

I'd suggest having it like the old dictionary, as in you type the word in and it gives you the translation, but you can still tap the word and get its definition and uses. Simple, yet complex.

I understand where you're coming from. The issue is that there are oftentimes multiple translations, so rather than try and guess which translation you mean, it provides them all. For example the Translator can't know whether "come" is meant to be "to go" or "to become", so it provides both bo and meyz to let you decide which fits best. It takes more effort but is overall more in-depth, which is a tradeoff I thought was worth making.

The new Translator is really intended as a learning tool. The old Translator was quick and easy, but was wrong 90% of the time, and didn't do much to encourage learning. Those were problems I wanted to fix this time around.

by paarthurnax
February 8, 2016
Fusyolfaas

I'd suggest having it like the old dictionary, as in you type the word in and it gives you the translation, but you can still tap the word and get its definition and uses. Simple, yet complex.

I understand where you're coming from. The issue is that there are oftentimes multiple translations, so rather than try and guess which translation you mean, it provides them all. For example the Translator can't know whether "come" is meant to be "to go" or "to become", so it provides both bo and meyz to let you decide which fits best. It takes more effort but is overall more in-depth, which is a tradeoff I thought was worth making.

The new Translator is really intended as a learning tool. The old Translator was quick and easy, but was wrong 90% of the time, and didn't do much to encourage learning. Those were problems I wanted to fix this time around.


VenomStryke
February 9, 2016
I don't really like this new Translator. It was nice to be able to see the text in English and Dovahzul
by VenomStryke
February 9, 2016
I don't really like this new Translator. It was nice to be able to see the text in English and Dovahzul
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